I'm trying to sort out some of the game stats in my head... I understand the general difference between physical dmg and magic dmg, but are all champions' auto-attacks physical damage? What about the mages who shoot energy bolts as their basic attack? Are those magic dmg or physical damage?
And secondly, let's take Xin Zhao as an example for a moment. His Q, 3 Talon Strike, give his next 3 attacks boosted damage. In the description, it says 'bonus damage.' Does this mean that physical damage is added to his base attack? Or are two stats being added (his physical attack + the bonus dmg as MAGIC dmg)? And do those 3 attacks still function the same as a standard attack? (For example, would a frozen mallet still proc while xin has his q activated)?
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And secondly, let's take Xin Zhao as an example for a moment. His Q, 3 Talon Strike, give his next 3 attacks boosted damage. In the description, it says 'bonus damage.' Does this mean that physical damage is added to his base attack? Or are two stats being added (his physical attack + the bonus dmg as MAGIC dmg)? And do those 3 attacks still function the same as a standard attack? (For example, would a frozen mallet still proc while xin has his q activated)?
Thanks!! :)
Dec 10, 2012 A good portion is physical, of course, as the only completely magical (ie, shadow or frost) attacks are death coil, howling blast, icy touch, and I think frost strike. Maybe frost strike. Most of our attacks deal additional damage of a magical type (like scourge/obliterate). Feb 16, 2018 General way to tell magic from physical damage? (Dark Mind) I mean, I get this is kind of a stupid question, but I want to make good use of Dark Mind for DRK.
All champion's auto attacks are physical damage.
I'm not sure if the extra damage on TTS is physical or magical, I'm pretty sure it's physical though.
Yes. All three of those will activate Frozen Mallet if you have it as they are regular attacks. Just with a bonus.
I'm not sure if the extra damage on TTS is physical or magical, I'm pretty sure it's physical though.
Yes. All three of those will activate Frozen Mallet if you have it as they are regular attacks. Just with a bonus.
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Yes auto attacks are physical
The extra damage will say on the attack
Yes, each attack can proc
The extra damage will say on the attack
Yes, each attack can proc
- Aug 29, 2010 The left one about auto attacks is correct (although Kayle's E gives a magic dmg splash effect, but can be considered a spell). Some abilities deal Physical Dmg rather than Magical dmg. For those abilities it is stated in the description if it is physical (if there is no specification, it is magical.
- SUM = magical dmg When you use magical class (DW, eMK, SUM) you use magic DMG only, physical DMG isn't important at all, however it gets bigger once you upgrade your character. In other words, it's only a number in your stats that doesn't work for the opposite power you use.
- So far I thought that: - auto attacks are generally PD - Summoner spells (if they deal DMG) are always MD - abilities are always MD, if nothing else is written in its explanation (for sure, abilities that increase the attack speed of auto attack dont deal MD then.
- Sep 25, 2016 Addon that highlights incoming magic vs physical dmg? As a guardian druid I'd appreciate a little bar addon that showed incoming magic vs physical damage in the last X seconds, as an aid for learning which encounters need more magic AM vs physical AM.
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All auto-attacks are physical attacks regrdless if the champions attack with their hammers or if they attack by sending bolts of energy ( eg ryze ).Magic damage is almost always dealt when you activate one of your spells unless it says that this spell will deal physical dmg.But this will be referred in the description of the spell and another tip to distinguish spells that deal magic dmg from spells tha deal dmg according to your physical attack is the colour of the letters and numbers in the part of the descripiton where the dmg is referred.If the letters are oreange then this spell will deal physical dmg and if the letters are a mix of greend and blue the this spell will deal magic dmg.
you can generally look at the color of an abilities damage scaling to determine what kind of damage it does. If the scaling number (the number in parentheses next to the base damage) is red, the attack does physical damage and scales off attack damage. If the scaling number is green, it deals magic damage and scales off ability power. If the number has both (hybrid) it generally deals magic damage. If the number is a special color like blue (ryze and nasus) or yellow (rammus and malphite) then you have to look to the champion itself for those special cases. Ryze obviously deals magic damage, but his abilities scale off mana and AP. Rammus's damage scales off of armor. A general rule of thumb is that auto attacks deal physical damage and abilities deal magical damage, but there are exceptions. You probably know this, but armor reduces physical damage and magic resist reduces magic damage.
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1. Does spell dmg affect EK? 2. What affects EK, magic or physical critical dmg? 3. Does EK dmg increases by spell dmg or physical(Increased dmg by using 1 handed melee weapons, for example) dmg? Thanks for any further response :) | Posted by on Mar 15, 2013, 10:29:51 AM |
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Off hand i cant remember, why dont you search for it? pretty sure there is a eldrich battery ek shadow build thread with loads of detail on the mechanics of ek. Edit; here you go, the search function is pretty helpful and took me about 5 seconds. http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/64424 Last edited by facelessman122 on Mar 15, 2013, 10:46:24 AM | Posted by on Mar 15, 2013, 10:38:33 AM |
Learn to read. It will fix all your problems in this game. | Posted by ItsRay on Mar 15, 2013, 10:39:06 AM |
' Yes. ' There's no such thing as 'magic damage'. A *skill* can be either a Spell or an Attack. *Damage* can be Physical, Elemental, or Chaos. EK is a Spell that does Physical damage. It's affected by spell crit and global crit, which includes pretty much all the crit passives that are not specific to a weapon type. ' It benefits from spell damage and physical damage buffs, since it's a spell that deals physical damage. The mod you mention in your example, though, is increased damage WITH 1 handed melee weapons, which only works with attacks and therefore has no effect on EK. Rule of thumb... Does it say 'Spell' or 'physical damage'? If so, it applies to EK. Does it say 'with attacks', 'elemental damage', or 'with [weapon type]'? If so, it doesn't. | Posted by on Mar 15, 2013, 10:54:12 AM |
The thing with damage types in this game is that they often overlap. For example, Ethereal Knives does spell, physical, and projectile damage. Anything that affects spells, physical damage, and projectiles also affect Ethereal Knives. However, also keep in mind that spell damage and attack damage (damage from weapons, eg 'damage with 2-handed weapons') is the exception to this. Spell and attack damage are mutually exclusive. Spell damage never affects Attack damage, and vice versa. Only 'global' bonuses affect both. You can find out what damage types a skill deals by hovering your cursor over the skill gem. The first line of text right after the skill name gives you a list of catagories that the skill belongs to. Unfortunately, some of the nodes in the passive tree aren't really worded to be perfectly clear. You have to keep in mind that any crit chance/multiplier nodes that don't mention spell crit or a specific weapon are actually global, so it is applied to both spell and attack damage. Any node that mentions a specific weapon will only apply to attacks made with that weapon type. To answer your questions, 1) Yes, EK is a spell, not an attack. It is affected by spell damage bonuses 2) EK is affected by spell crit and global crit, but not crit with specific weapon types. (there is no physical-only crit) 3) EK deals physical and spell damage, so it can be boosted by both spell damage and physical damage bonuses. However, it is not an attack so 'increased physical damage with [weapon type]' nodes do not affect it. There are some support gems that affect physical damage generally; these work with EK. Alteration Orb Union Local #7 'Holding the line, on sixteen to one!' Last edited by VoxelSquid on Mar 15, 2013, 11:03:43 AM | Posted by VoxelSquid on Mar 15, 2013, 10:58:40 AM |
' u took so much time u post this retarded and yet useless comment while u could had just give him the answer, the path of exile wiki is very vague about what scales EK, so calm ur tits would ya? | Posted by Thomassonigo on Nov 6, 2013, 11:51:54 AM |